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AI is making it easier than ever to write code.
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That sounds great. Until you are the team responsible
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for everything that has to exist after the code
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gets written. The infrastructure. The deploy
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path. The secrets. The permissions. The cost.
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The rollback plan. The weird Terraform change
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someone generated at 4:30 on a Friday and swears
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is probably fine. Because when app teams move
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faster, platform and infrastructure teams do
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not magically get less work. they get more change,
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more pressure, more risk, and a lot more questions
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about whether the systems around delivery can
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actually keep up. That is really what this conversation
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is about. Not just AI, not just Terraform, not
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just infrastructure as code, but what happens
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when software delivery speeds up and the people
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running the infrastructure have to figure out
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how to keep things safe, reliable, governed,
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and still usable. Hey, I'm Brian Teller. I work
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in DevOps and SRE, and I run Teller's Tech. Ship
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It Weekly is where I filter the noise and focus
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on what actually matters when you are the one
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running infrastructure and owning reliability.
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Most weeks, it's a quick news recap. In between
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those, I do conversation episodes with people
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who are building platforms, running infrastructure,
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organizing events, and thinking through where
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this whole industry is actually headed. Today
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is one of those conversations. I'm joined by
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Gareth Kersey to preview IACConf 2026. IACConf
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is a free virtual conference focused on infrastructure
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as code, platform engineering, DevOps, and infrastructure
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operations. And the theme this year is basically
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how infrastructure teams keep pace when AI is
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changing the speed of software delivery. And
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I like that framing because it gets past the
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lazy version of the AI conversation. This is
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not just can AI write Terraform. It probably
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can. Sometimes badly. Sometimes usefully. Sometimes
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like a tourist who learned just enough of a language
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to confidently order the wrong thing. The better
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question is, what happens after that? What happens
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when developers can generate more code, ship
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more changes, and push product roadmaps faster?
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What does that mean for DevOps, SRE, platform,
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and infrastructure teams who still have to deal
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with the blast radius. In this conversation,
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Gareth walks through the IACConf agenda, including
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Corey Quinn's keynote, sessions on AI and infrastructure
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operations, platform engineering panels, Kubernetes,
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Argo CD, AI agents managing infrastructure as
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code, governance, policy, and the risk of 10x
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code velocity turning into 10x operational risk.
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We also talk about how IACConf has grown, why
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people seem hungry for an event that goes deeper
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on infrastructure as code, and how they are trying
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to keep it community focused instead of turning
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into just another vendor marketing conference.
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That part stood out to me because infrastructure
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as code is one of those topics that sits at the
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intersection of almost everything now. Terraform,
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OpenTofu, Pulumi, Crossplane, Kubernetes, GitOps,
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Policy, Security, Cost. Developer experience,
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internal platforms, and now AI-generated changes
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being pushed into systems that were already complicated
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enough before the robots showed up. So if you
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work around infrastructure, platform engineering,
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DevOps, SRE, or you are just trying to figure
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out how to keep your delivery system sane while
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everything around it speeds up, this one should
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be worth your time. All right, let's jump in.
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Today, I'm joined by Gareth Kersey from IACConf.
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We're doing a fast preview of IACConf 2026,
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what the theme is, what talks are worth bookmarking,
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and what infra teams should be doing now that
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AI is changing the pace of shipping. Gareth,
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thank you for joining me. Thanks, Brian. Excited
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to be here. So I'm interested to hear, what does
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keeping pace mean? Yeah, so it's not a surprise
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probably to anyone with whether you're in engineering,
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You're in any sort of field operations function.
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What AI is doing to kind of everyone's day -to
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-day function, right? Everyone's feeling the
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pressure to move faster, do more with less. And
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I think one of the biggest places that has been
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upended and really drastically changed is software
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engineering, right? The rate at which you can
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spin up an application, you can code with cloud
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code. what does that actually mean on the other
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side for operations teams well now you've got
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developers are shipping way faster that product
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roadmap is getting through a lot faster but that
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application code isn't always going to be the
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same maybe level of quality or the thoroughness
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that are security checks what does that mean
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for infrastructure all the kind of the downstream
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operations that are needed to actually sustain
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that application deployment is that actually
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keeping pace so that's what we mean by keeping
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pace and obviously with it being infrastructure
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as code conference, IACConf. We're really focused
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on the infrastructure operations components of
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that. But we do have a lot of sessions that touch
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on more than just infrastructure as code, because
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realistically, whether you're a DevOps, SRE platform,
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IAC is one piece of the puzzle that you're working
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with. And so we've got several talks that talk
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a little more broadly about keeping pace in terms
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of like the app operations standpoint. So that's
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a good precursor. What are the talks? Let's kind
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of dive into that. Yeah. I saw some of them.
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You had mentioned some of the speakers on the
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IACConf page. Can you give me just a high -level
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overview? Who is speaking? What are they speaking
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about? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we've got a really
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good agenda this year. It's a mix of, you know,
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a couple panels, a couple talks that are more,
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you know, framework, point of view on the market,
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and then a few talks which are down in the weeds,
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more demos. You know, so we've tried to create
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a nice array of topics. So this is, let's see,
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we did IACConf, the first one in May of 2025.
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That was 13 sessions, really great response,
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a lot of good feedback. Then we did a security
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focused virtual spotlight in August. And then
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we did an AI focused one. And every time we do
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it, we collect feedback on what people want.
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And people like to have the in -talk or the in
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-depth demos, but they also, you know, like to
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hear the panel discussions and people just talking
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about what they're building. So we've tried to
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create that variety. So I can kind of give you
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some of like the high level agenda overview and
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and kind of what these these different talks
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are shaking out, shaking out as. So first, we've
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got Corey Quinn. He's running the keynote. If
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you're involved with Amazon Web Services, you
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know, AWS, you probably know Corey Quinn. I think
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I came across him first, maybe like 2020. And
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then I saw him do the AWS reinvent like vendor
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crawl. And it was just like he was like dressed
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up as a zookeeper, like going across these different
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vendors. And it was just hilarious. So his talk
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is what he's labeling AI speaks Terraform like
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a tourist. Really, really excited for him to
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kind of kick it off. When we were talking about
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his keynote, you know, there's no right answer
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in any of this is what it comes down to, right?
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Whether AI writing Terraform is going to help
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in some areas, whether going completely away
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from IC. in general for some of these things
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and having AI just directly provisioned infrastructure
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and everywhere in between, the keynote is meant
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to kind of set the stage of, hey, there's a lot
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of places that you can go to. And obviously it
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has a little bit of Corey's humor built into
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it. Awesome. So from there, we've got Matt Gowie,
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who's a founder and CEO of a consulting company
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called MasterPoint. They're a partner of Spacelift.
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He's got a great perspective on the industry.
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He has a lot of clients. So he's talking about.
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kind of how AI is upending infrastructure operations.
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We're running two tracks at different times of
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the day. We're starting off with two tracks after
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Corey's keynote. And we've got two folks, Emin
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Elmedar and Flavius Danu, who are practitioners.
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They've worked at Spacelift, but they're going
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to talk about how to get started pretty easily
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with infrastructure as code with an... ai flavor
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and they're actually going to run into an open
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source project called intent about how you can
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actually stand up very quickly some ai provisioning
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both with iac and then you know an ai driven
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workflow path from there we're going to jump
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into anta babenko who if you all know tf weekly
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he's uh you know a big voice in the terraform
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infrastructure's code space and he does a lot
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with terraform modules that's what he's known
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for producing these modules that everyone loves
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and goes to repeatedly so he's got a session
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specifically around replacing Terraform module
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forks with policy transformation rules. We then
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jump into one of the first panel of the day.
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We've got two panels, and this one is really
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interesting. So it's going to be moderated by
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Luca, who is over at Platform Engineering, or
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if you know PlatformCon, Luca Galante is all
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things platform engineering. And we've got three
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folks on that panel. The first is Chris Haas,
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who is the CTO of Mondelez. So Mondelez is the
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massive food. a manufacturer i think they own
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cad berries and all different sorts of uh confectionaries
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so he started as a director of platform engineering
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and he's made his way up and now he's the cto
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of the organization so great in -house expertise
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we've got an individual fasal who is the principal
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of platform engineering for a services firm called
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ahead so he's got a lot of experience going talking
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to all the services partners and his clients
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and then we've got Eric Maxwell, who's actually
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a co -author of DORA and works at Google. So
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that panel is going to be really interesting
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perspectives from three different individuals
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all about platform engineering and what does
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it actually mean with now AI agents being consumers
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of your platform. So then we get into some more
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technical sessions. We run this on two tracks.
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We call the main stage and the builder stage.
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On the main stage, we've got Amin talking about
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when 10x code velocity could mean 10x operational
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risks. So that idea of application. Code development
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is rapidly increasing, but what does it actually
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mean for your downstream operations? And then
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Davlet from Cloud Genie is going to be talking
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about how to safely deploy AI agents that write
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and manage your IAC. On the build track, we've
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got a couple of interesting talks there. So one
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is this gentleman by the name of Joseph who...
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The title of this session is really interesting.
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I deleted 4 ,000 lines of AWS CDK and shipped
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faster. So he's going to get down into the details
10:44
of a specific scenario he ran into. We actually
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simplified his AWS deployment, was able to go
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faster. So again, keep in pace. And then Atesh
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Main from Philo is going to talk about infrastructure
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at scale using Argo CD. Kubernetes deployments,
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we're talking about what might be some future
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topics for IACConf. A lot of Kubernetes interest.
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maybe not surprisingly, in a lot of session submissions
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and ones we've done in the past. So I think that's
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going to be a popular session. Around 2 .30 Eastern,
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we go into our second panel of the day. And so
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this panel is actually a combination of different
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tech founders from a couple of different vendors
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in the DevOps platform engineering space. So
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we've got Marcin Wyszynski, who's the co -founder
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and head of R &D at Spacelift. We have Chris
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Evans, who's the field CTO and co -founder of
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Incident .io. And then we've got Ganesh Dutta,
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who is the CTO and co -founder of Cortex. And
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what they're going to be talking about is...
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Yeah, we're seeing the, this is working for our
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customers. These are the people who are actually
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talking to people every day, building products
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that DevOps platform teams are using to try to
11:53
keep that demand and how they're thinking about
11:55
building those products. I think those would
11:57
be really interesting for maybe those platform
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engineering teams who are thinking about almost...
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internal product development for their teams.
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What does that actually look like inside one
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of these vendors? This is also going to be moderated
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by a woman named Serena, who used to be the head
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of JP Morgan and Chase product developer platform
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from a UI UX standpoint. So she's got some really
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interesting experience. She used to be at Red
12:22
Hat on the product UI UX teams. That's going
12:24
to be a very, I would say, product -centric panel
12:27
thinking about how do you build this platform.
12:30
for this 10x velocity and all the things that,
12:33
again, they're hearing from customers, which
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I'm sure there'll be a lot of customers of any
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one or maybe a combination of those products
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in the conference. Very cool. At three o 'clock,
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we're going to move over to, again, two tracks.
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So Dimitri Vlachos, who's the... CMO of Spacelift.
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This is our second year running the infrastructure
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automation report. And we surveyed 400 individuals
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across platform and DevOps engineering functions
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and asked them about their adoption of AI. How's
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it going? What's the adoption rate of AI among
13:08
their development teams versus their operations,
13:10
specifically infrastructure operations? And what
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does that gap look like? There's some really
13:15
interesting findings there. Drop a little bit
13:17
of a hint. Some of the biggest gaps are around
13:19
the governance around those AI deployments and
13:22
what does that actually mean in terms of productivity
13:24
and time kept back of having to go back and,
13:26
you know, check what's been done because of lack
13:29
of guardrails that are in place. Alexander is
13:32
going to run a session. This is very much a build
13:34
session of something he's built around AI enforced
13:35
architecture. And then we're going to close out
13:37
the day with John, who is a principal engineer
13:40
at Sanofi, the large pharmaceutical company.
13:44
And he's going to kind of round out the day about
13:45
talking about. platform engineering in general
13:47
and how to do that without slowing developers
13:49
down. Again, rounding out the theme around keeping
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pace and what does that mean in 2026? Interesting.
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So I've seen like over the last year, IACConf
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has grown, especially with this next upcoming
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conference. And there's a lot of that just from
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feedback. Like you mentioned, we're doing two
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quote unquote stages now. There are panel discussions
14:08
and what has caused like the changes and where
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do you see it going long term? On the first one
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we did, which was in May of 2025, we were optimistic,
14:21
but the response rate was more than we anticipated
14:24
in terms of the registrations, the attendance.
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But then also after the event, we surveyed everybody.
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Hey, what did you like? What do you want to see
14:33
more of? What suggestions do you have? And the
14:35
response was overwhelmingly positive. From the
14:38
logistics standpoint, even people saying this
14:40
is the type of event I would actually travel
14:42
to because there was a... I mean, there still
14:45
is a gap in the market in terms of something
14:47
that's specific to infrastructure as code as
14:49
a conference. You have your KubeCons, you've
14:52
got, you know, the AWS Summits and the Reinvents,
14:54
Google Next. Those are all great conferences,
14:56
but they're quite broad, right? And so this filled
15:00
a gap for, you know, what is the niche of infrastructure
15:03
as code? And I think with the content that we
15:06
curated, it hit the mark. And so the feedback
15:10
that we heard was... Well, one, keep it up. This
15:13
is exactly what we want more of. People want
15:16
stories. They want demos. They want real world
15:20
scenarios. I think there's always the balance
15:22
of being able to have that kind of framework
15:25
discussion of here's what good looks like versus
15:28
like the actual real world scenario. Yes. And
15:32
here's how I applied that in my actual environments.
15:36
And here's how you can go on Monday. turn around
15:39
and start doing it yourself so that's the biggest
15:42
thing that we've tried to do every one of these
15:45
events we run we go and survey the audience and
15:48
say what did you like what did you not like what
15:50
do you want to see more of and try to do that
15:52
and we've also done that with trying to run these
15:54
in person we've done two so far we did the first
15:58
at cubecon when it was in atlanta in november
16:01
and then we did a meetup in amsterdam back in
16:04
march because The other half of it is people
16:07
just want to connect, network, meet other people
16:09
who are working with infrastructure as code and
16:11
build their own network. So I think that's the
16:15
extension of what we want to make this more of
16:17
is, yes, the primary is an events platform, allowing
16:21
people to have a platform to share their story,
16:23
share their knowledge, a place for people to
16:26
come learn, but then also a platform for people
16:29
to go connect with others who are working with
16:31
infrastructure as code and whether that takes
16:33
the shape of. The next place we've done was in
16:36
-person events. You know, from here, we want
16:38
to build a content board, a jobs listing board.
16:41
There was a lot of comments around, hey, we could
16:44
have a Slack community or some sort of community
16:46
where people can go and have real -life chat.
16:48
And so that's the objective is to keep building
16:51
it, allow people to connect, still have the events
16:55
platforms where people can share their stories
16:56
and learn from each other, but create more of
16:59
those forums, whether they're in -person or virtual,
17:01
for people to actually connect with each other.
17:04
Do you see the cadence keeping up with that pace
17:06
as far as like what one or two virtuals per year
17:09
and then one or two in -persons or? Yeah. So
17:12
we did Amsterdam. So for in -persons, we did
17:14
Amsterdam. We're going to do Salt Lake City,
17:17
which is, I think it's November. A lot of demand
17:21
for doing something at reInvent. Vegas is a bit
17:24
crazy at reInvent, but it would be great to try
17:27
to put something together there, even if it's
17:29
a networking meetup style or a happy hour style.
17:32
We have discussed some ideas of doing some more
17:35
regional city -based events throughout the year,
17:38
perhaps partnering with a local DevOps meetup
17:41
or AWS has a lot of user groups. So I'd love
17:45
to explore that. I'm in Boston. talking about
17:49
trying to do that shortly after IACConf 2026.
17:52
In terms of the virtual cadence, so yeah, we'll
17:55
definitely keep with what we call Spotlight Series.
17:58
So we have this annual event, 13 sessions. It
18:01
runs from 11 to 4:30 Eastern. But then we did
18:05
two of these spotlights last year. So one was
18:07
security. So this intersection of infrastructure
18:10
as code and security, that was three sessions,
18:13
and that was August. And then we did one on AI
18:15
in January. Again, three sessions. And those
18:18
went really well. So I definitely think there's
18:21
more of those we can do. I mentioned Kubernetes
18:23
being a really hot topic. Definitely think we
18:26
can do a session based off of the submissions
18:28
we've got and the interest we have on Kubernetes
18:30
and that intersection of infrastructure and Kubernetes.
18:33
Open source is another topic that's come up a
18:35
lot. And then there's, again, there's a lot of
18:38
like those intersections we could have of infrastructure
18:40
and going deep in one specific area. And then
18:44
we've also talked about, we get a lot of submissions.
18:46
I think we got 50 submissions for IAC Conf 2026,
18:50
and we can only take so many. I'd love to be
18:53
able to do one -off events. Hey, this is a submission
18:56
we didn't get to. We're going to run it on a
18:58
Thursday in June and just give somebody that
19:01
platform to share their story. You know, it helps
19:04
them build their credibility. It's something
19:06
they can add to their resume. They can add to
19:08
their LinkedIn profile. This is a presentation
19:10
I've done, but it also gives the community another.
19:13
story they can go and listen to and think about
19:15
how they can take that to their environment yeah
19:17
for sure and so it is a free conference to be
19:20
clear too so it's free yeah is it recorded so
19:23
like let's say i couldn't attend can i see those
19:25
talks after the fact yeah yep so we have a youtube
19:28
channel so we post everything there typically
19:31
within a week we'll get things posted up so yeah
19:34
if you If you miss it, you can go catch it on
19:36
YouTube again a week, 10 days later. If you're
19:39
also not sure you can attend, register because
19:42
as soon as we do send an email out a few hours
19:45
after the event, and then you can go access the
19:48
events platform we use and you can go browse
19:51
any of the sessions before they get to YouTube.
19:53
So yeah, even if you're not sure you can attend,
19:55
register and you can go access the platform immediately
19:58
afterwards. So given all the submissions that
20:01
you have gotten, that maybe you weren't able
20:03
to get to this time around. Have you seen any
20:04
trend? Like, is there any industry trends around
20:07
AI or around Kubernetes specifically that you've
20:09
seen with these submissions? I have to go back
20:12
and look a little bit. I mean, so it was on this
20:15
IACConf 2026, there was a pretty widespread
20:19
of submissions around, again, this idea of keeping
20:22
pace and what does that mean? We had some that
20:25
were more keeping pace from the application side.
20:28
and ways that they're thinking about the application
20:31
development. And I think there's ways to actually
20:33
create some, there could be some interesting
20:35
discussions around bringing people who are more
20:38
focused on the application side and then someone
20:40
else on the operations side. And maybe it's a
20:42
team who's worked together to figure that out
20:45
really well. On the Kubernetes, well, one, Kubernetes
20:48
is such a broad topic. I think people were, last
20:51
year, Crossplane was one of the most, I would
20:55
say, sought -after sessions we had at IACConf.
20:59
Now, if you actually looked at the chatter and
21:01
the questions that were coming up in that, and
21:03
actually even the presentation itself, no one
21:06
was super confident on Crossplane. Now, it doesn't
21:08
mean, but people are still interested in how
21:11
can I make Kubernetes work for... my infrastructure
21:13
and what does that intersection look like? So
21:16
the demand is certainly there. Obviously, Kubernetes
21:18
is not going away. We've got conferences dedicated
21:21
to it. So there's plenty of people out there
21:23
looking to learn and explore and see what's possible.
21:26
I think my overarching, I guess, overarching
21:28
takeaway in looking at the submissions is there's
21:31
no right answer. People are still figuring this
21:33
out. There's a lot of experimenting. I think
21:36
what's going to be really interesting from this
21:38
is where the conversation kind of... centers
21:42
around because the chat becomes really interesting
21:44
during these sessions where people a speaker
21:47
says something and then it seems to spark a conversation
21:50
in the chat and you can like almost you know
21:53
see through the screen people's like light bulbs
21:55
going off like yes I get that that makes sense
21:57
and there were certain sessions last year that
21:59
triggered that and given that this year's topic
22:01
is a bit more focused on this keeping pace and
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well just the environment May 2025 to May 2026.
22:10
the world of software engineering and what that
22:12
means for operations has changed dramatically,
22:14
right? So I think it'll be really interesting
22:16
to see kind of what those spark moments are in
22:19
some of these talks, because that will be a good
22:21
indication for us. And we'll definitely publish
22:23
it once we do that, because we did this last
22:25
year. We can see all the data on the back end,
22:27
like what those topics were and what sparks those,
22:29
what are the questions asked? So we get to actually
22:32
kind of get some sort of an idea of what the
22:35
themes are. We'll do a write -up and we'll definitely
22:38
publish that once we have it, because I think.
22:40
It'll be interesting for a lot of folks to read
22:41
that. So like a report around like the analytics,
22:45
I guess, of what you're able to glean from the
22:47
conference itself, like from the participants?
22:50
Yeah, like what was the most attended session?
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Like what was the highest interest rates of the
22:55
content? Yeah. Yeah. That sounds interesting.
22:58
I'd be curious to read it for sure. I mean, reading
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like the DORA report every year, it's very interesting
23:04
to see just the state of the industry, where
23:06
it's headed, especially over the last few years.
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As you've said already, AI has kind of changed
23:11
everything for everybody. Yeah. There's been
23:14
a real shift. Did you have Crossplane talks
23:17
previously? Or you just had submissions around
23:21
Crossplane? We had a Crossplane talk in IACConf
23:24
2025. Okay. And how does that jive with Spacelift,
23:29
your IC platform? Yeah. It's kind of like promoting
23:33
a separate product in a way? I don't know. Yeah,
23:35
yeah. So I'm on the Spacelift team. I'm employed
23:41
by Spacelift. I'm on the marketing team. But
23:43
we have been very deliberate in IACConf. Spacelift
23:49
funds it, right? But we do honestly try to keep
23:52
it separate. So that means we open up the CFPs.
23:56
We want to get people in talking about things.
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What are the popular topics? Crossplane was a
24:00
popular topic. It was a great submission. And
24:03
so... For the better of the community, that's
24:05
what people want to hear about. It doesn't really
24:07
matter if that, you know, is a competitor of
24:11
Spacelift. In the end, it's not really a competitor
24:13
of Spacelift. You know, I think it's more of
24:15
a, maybe a cultural difference of the team adopting
24:19
it, right? If I want to go all in on Kubernetes
24:21
versus I want to go all in on traditional, you
24:25
know, terraforming GitOps approach, well, that's
24:27
a separation once you make that decision. That's
24:30
a bit of a competing, maybe philosophical, is
24:33
that the right word? I don't know. Methodology
24:35
of how you actually want to deploy infrastructure.
24:37
But even if it wasn't that, you know, GitOps
24:39
Terraform space, again, if people, the community
24:42
wants to hear about certain topics, that's what
24:44
we want to create IOC Conf for. I've even thought
24:47
about, it would be really interesting to have
24:49
like a tacos panel, like get some of the founders
24:52
from all these different platforms and have them
24:55
talk about what they think the future is of,
24:57
you know. Terraform orchestration platforms.
24:59
The IACConf is just the platform to make those
25:02
conversations happen. It's great to hear. I mean,
25:04
so I've been to a lot of like vendor sponsored
25:07
conferences and sometimes they lean too heavily
25:10
in marketing. It's nice to hear that IACConf
25:12
is more interested in relaying the technologies
25:15
that matter to the practitioners that are attending
25:17
over trying to. sponsor Spacelift as a product.
25:21
I mean, that's not the only motivating factor.
25:23
Like I said, I don't want to name names, but
25:25
I've been to other vendor -led conferences that
25:27
were very heavy into that vendor ecosystem at
25:30
all costs, which can be detrimental to the overall
25:33
conference itself. So it's good to hear. Yeah,
25:35
we have our own set of, you know, Spacelift events
25:37
and sessions where we can talk Spacelift, but
25:40
that's not what IACConf is for. It's a platform
25:43
for the community and, you know, Spacelift just
25:46
helps fund it. So if there was, I had time to
25:50
watch one talk, is there one or top three talks
25:52
that you would say ahead of time that I should
25:55
maybe check out? Let's say I was very busy. I
25:57
just didn't have time. I don't want to put you
25:59
on the spot. If you don't, if you don't want
26:00
to name one, that's fine too. But yeah, well,
26:02
I haven't, all the, all like the first round
26:04
drafts of presentations are due in like later
26:07
this week. So I actually haven't seen anything
26:09
yet, but I mean, there's a few talks that I think
26:11
are going to be interesting. I don't know if
26:13
I can like give you an order, but well, like
26:15
Corey. Again, if you've seen any of his videos,
26:18
his sense of humor and his approach just talking
26:21
about AWS and all things infrastructure is always
26:24
entertaining. So I'm pretty excited about that.
26:27
I'm really excited about this gentleman, Amin,
26:30
whose session is when 10x code velocity could
26:33
mean 10x operational risk. If you were to put
26:36
a session, not so much focused on infrastructure,
26:38
but on this keeping pace topic. That's exactly
26:42
what his session is about. And what does that
26:45
actually mean for all the downstream operations
26:47
teams? So I think that one will be really interesting.
26:51
The panel in the agenda is the Platform Engineering
26:54
Experts panel with Luca, Eric Maxwell from DORA,
26:58
Frisal from AHEAD, and Chris from Mondelēz. I
27:01
think that's going to be really interesting because
27:03
you've got... three very different but aligned
27:05
perspectives. You've got someone who's in -house,
27:08
started as a director of platform engineering,
27:10
now the CTO. You've got someone at a major services
27:13
partner who's working with a lot of clients.
27:15
And you've got someone at Google who co -authored
27:17
Dora. So I think there's just going to be a lot
27:19
of really interesting perspectives on that. And
27:21
then the one that I think is, you know, his background
27:25
looks really interesting. The submission also
27:30
looks really interesting is Alexandra from Anovo,
27:34
AI -enforced architecture fitness functions at
27:36
scale. On the builder's track, a bit more technical,
27:39
a bit more down in the weeds. That one's at just
27:42
around three o 'clock Eastern. I think that'll
27:44
be a really interesting session that'll get some
27:47
good engagement. Very cool. So for anyone looking
27:50
to register, where should they, how do they check
27:52
you out? Yeah. So IACconf .com is the main website.
27:58
We've got, there's an event section and you can
28:00
see within there, it's the featured event. You
28:03
can also find us on LinkedIn. We've got an IACconf
28:06
profile page. We're releasing every few days,
28:09
featuring a new speaker. And so those are probably
28:12
the two best places to go get some more information.
28:14
Awesome. Great to hear it. Anything else you'd
28:16
like to leave our listeners with, Gareth? Yeah,
28:18
I'd say the reason that... IAC Conf has grown
28:22
to what it has is by listening to feedback from
28:25
the community. So if infrastructure as code is
28:28
of interest to you, you're either trying to learn
28:31
it, use it daily, or you lead IEC initiatives
28:34
at your organization, register, get on the list,
28:38
attend, and let us know what you think. Again,
28:40
we're building this community. for this audience.
28:43
And so the best way to help us build is to let
28:47
us know what you like, what you don't like, when
28:48
you want to hear more of. So this is a really
28:50
exciting project. We want to do more of these
28:52
events. And so, yeah, please join us on May 14th.
28:56
I'm looking forward to it personally. Everyone
28:57
else, please check it out as well. Gareth, thank
28:59
you so much for coming on. Really appreciate
29:01
your time. Thanks, Brian. All right. That was
29:04
my conversation with Gareth Kersey previewing
29:06
IACConf 2026. My biggest takeaway from this
29:09
one is that keeping pace sounds simple until
29:13
you actually unpack it. Because for infrastructure
29:16
and platform teams, keeping pace does not just
29:18
mean moving faster. It means absorbing faster
29:21
change without turning your platform into a junk
29:24
drawer. It means giving developers better paths
29:27
to production without giving up governance. It
29:29
means figuring out where AI helps, where it creates
29:32
risk, and where human judgment still needs to
29:35
sit in the loop. And honestly, that feels like
29:38
the real infrastructure conversation right now.
29:41
Not “AI is amazing.” Not “AI is useless.” More
29:44
like, okay, the code is coming faster now. The
29:47
pull requests are coming faster. The experiments
29:49
are coming faster. The platform requests are
29:52
coming faster. So what has to be true for infrastructure
29:55
teams to handle that without becoming the bottleneck
29:59
or the cleanup crew? That is where infrastructure
30:01
as code still matters. That is where policy matters.
30:04
That is where reusable patterns matter. That
30:06
is where platform engineering matters. And that
30:09
is where events like IACConf are interesting
30:11
because they are bringing together people who
30:14
are actually dealing with this stuff from different
30:16
angles. Practitioners, platform teams, vendors,
30:20
consultants, open source folks, people deep in
30:23
Terraform, Kubernetes, GitOps, governance, and
30:27
AI -driven workflows. I also appreciated Gareth
30:30
being pretty clear that IACConf is trying to
30:33
be a community event. not just a vendor event
30:35
with a nicer logo. Spacelift helps fund it, but
30:39
the topics are broader than Spacelift. They have
30:42
had Crossplane talks. They are talking Kubernetes.
30:44
They are talking Argo CD. They are talking platform
30:47
engineering, DORA, incident management, governance,
30:51
and the bigger operational impact of AI speeding
30:55
up software delivery. That matters because practitioners
30:58
can smell a thinly disguised product pitch. from
31:01
a mile away. And this seems more like a useful
31:04
place for infrastructure people to compare notes
31:07
on where the work is actually going. IACConf 2026
31:10
is free, virtual, and happening on May 14th.
31:14
Gareth mentioned that even if you cannot attend
31:16
live, it is still worth registering because the
31:20
sessions will be available afterward through
31:22
the event platform and later on YouTube. I'll
31:25
put the link in the show notes. If you enjoyed
31:27
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over to shipitweekly.fm. Thanks for listening,
31:37
and I'll see you later this week.